E125| Making The Unconscious Conscious | Cultural Shamanism w/ O.G. Rose, Tim Adalin, Aspasia Karageorge
When should we make the unconscious conscious in social contexts? Welcoming Voicecraft members O.G. Rose (philosopher) and Dr Aspasia Karageorge (psychologist) in dialogue with Tim Adalin. We dialogue with questions of emotional maturity, AI & human relationships, cultural shamanism, societal structures, and the balance between individual and collective transformation, blending philosophy, psychology, and spirituality.
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Summary
This conversation delves into the complexities of making the unconscious conscious within social contexts, exploring the delicate balance of trust, emotional discomfort, and the role of AI in human relationships. The speakers discuss the challenges of navigating these dynamics in a world where community and belonging are increasingly tenuous, emphasizing the importance of beauty and deeper connections in fostering meaningful interactions. This conversation delves into the complexities of attention dynamics, the nature of sin, cultural self-destruction, and the importance of emotional maturity in leadership and crisis management. It emphasizes the need for changing social imagination and the role of martyrdom in fostering commitment. The discussion also highlights the challenges posed by anxiety in relationships and the necessity of navigating emotional maturity to foster connection and understanding. This conversation delves into the complexities of anxiety, storytelling, and the relational dynamics that shape our interactions. The speakers explore how myth and ritual can mediate anxiety, the importance of authentic resonance in storytelling, and the impact of emotional clarity on relationships. They discuss the power of beauty and relational experiences in fostering connection and the need for creating spaces that encourage exploration and encounters with otherness. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of moderation as a radical approach in today's political landscape and the necessity of addressing anger and emotional maturity in societal interactions.
Keywords
unconscious, consciousness, relationships, AI, emotional discomfort, community, belonging, cultural shamanism, trust, beauty, attention, resources, sin, disordered relationships, cultural self-destruction, emotional maturity, leadership, social imagination, martyrdom, anxiety, anxiety, myth, storytelling, emotional clarity, beauty, relational experiences, exploration, otherness, cultural processes, AI
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:30 - Cultural Shamanism & Making the Unconscious Conscious
07:19 - Discerning Unconscious Influences
16:15 - Role of Art and Parables in Awareness
25:20 - Belonging and Societal Precarity
34:03 - AI and the Outsourcing of Relationships
47:28 - Attentionalism and Cultural Dynamics
58:13 - Emotional Maturity in Historical Crises
01:13:48 - Navigating Anger and Emotional Nuance
01:31:47 - Stories vs. Participatory Contexts
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O.G. Rose is a pen name consisting of Michelle’s maiden, middle, and their shared last name. While at the University of Virginia, Rose spent several years working collaboratively with other artists at Eunoia, a creative community Rose helped develop in Charlottesville, Virginia. Rose now lives on a farm, manages a wedding venue named Mead Lake, operates Frozen Glory Photography, and teaches piano using visuals from Rose’s Pattern Method.
A finalist for the 2020 UNO Press Lab Prize and 46th Pushcart Nominee, Rose’s creative works appear at The Write Launch, Allegory Ridge, Streetlight Magazine, Ponder Review, Iowa Review online, The William and Mary Review, Assure Press, Toho Journal online, West Trade Review, ellipsis, Poydras Review, O:JA&L, Burningword, and Broken Pencil.
You can find O.G. Rose’s website at https://www.ogrose.comBelonging Again: An Address can be purchased from Amazon here.
Daniel is also a member and core contributor the Voicecraft Network @ https://www.voicecraft.network
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Tim is the founder of Voicecraft and a philosopher with a focus on the relation between participation and transformation. You can connect with Tim individually @ https://www.timadalin.xyz
On X @ https://x.com/tim_adalin
And on LinkedIn @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-adalin/
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Dr Aspasia Karageorge is a clinical psychologist in private practice in Australia, a qualitative researcher, and a writer of some kind. She grew up in small town New Zealand wedged between a mountain and a volcanic black-sand coast. She is curious about practice-based wisdom, the creative process, languages of the unconscious, and some intersection of wonder/beauty/mystery/connection. Her therapy approach is greatly informed by Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy (ISTDP). As a research consultant, she is broadly focused on clinical complexity, innovation, and workforce development. Longstanding literary loves include Camus, Kazantzakis, Seferis, Anaïs Nin, Plato, Borges, Kafka, Balzac, Jung, Paz, Sartre, Nietzche, Gertrude Stein, Hemingway… a ridiculous list of names.
In her downtime, you’ll currently find her in the water, writing something that won’t make sense until later, daydreaming with campari, and/or dancing to some wild Greek 70s pop records with her kids. She is also a core contributor at Voicecraft.
For Aspasia’s private practice : sydneycitypsychology.com.au
She also shares conversations on her YouTube channel here:
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