E132| The Trance of Ideology, Global Pluralism & Indestructible Maps w/ O.G. Rose & Tim Adalin (Cultural Shamanism pt 3)

Exploring the tensions between ideology and reality, or ‘indestructible maps’ and participation in mystery and incompleteness, welcoming the philosopher, Voicecraft Network contributor and author of The Map is Indestructible, O.G. Rose in the form of Daniel Garner, in dialogue with Tim Adalin. This conversation continues the Cultural Shamanism series.

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  Summary

  In this intellectually rich conversation, Tim Adalin welcomes back Daniel Garner (O.G. Rose) for another exploration of global pluralism, indestructible maps, and the challenge of authentic address in our contemporary moment. Drawing from Daniel's new book "The Map is Indestructible," they delve into how we might navigate deep difference without falling into fragmentation or totalitarian conformity.

  Keywords

  global pluralism, indestructible maps, cultural shamanism, existential anxiety, social coherence, identity, difference, community, dialogue, belonging, esoteric concepts, love, value, openness, hyper-local interactions, girdle points, rationality, absolute choice, freedom, cultural shamanism

  Timestamps:

  00:00 Introduction to Global Pluralism

  09:05 The Nature of Givens and Identity

  16:10 Indestructible Maps and Their Implications

  28:08 Navigating Differences in a Pluralistic World

  38:32 Exploring the Nature of Maps and Transformation

  46:11 The Role of Maps in Social Coherence

  01:03:29 Addressing the Commons and Interpersonal Relations

  01:20:43 Navigating Esoteric Concepts and Relational Dynamics

  01:30:30 Gödel Points: Encountering Otherness and Creative Possibilities

  01:40:46 The Absolute Choice: Freedom, Goodness, and the Girdle Point

  01:49:26 Cultural Shamanism and the Role of Girdle Points

  02:03:28 The Stakes of Cultural Creation and Global Pluralism

  02:10:15 Navigating Authority and Social Hierarchies

  02:20:32 Desire vs. Drive: The Dynamics of Motivation

  02:25:58 Informal Conviviality and the Nature of Relationships

  02:32:43 The Interplay of Formal and Informal Systems

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• O.G. Rose

  O.G. Rose is a pen name consisting of Michelle’s maiden, middle, and their shared last name. While at the University of Virginia, Rose spent several years working collaboratively with other artists at Eunoia, a creative community Rose helped develop in Charlottesville, Virginia. Rose now lives on a farm, manages a wedding venue named Mead Lake, operates Frozen Glory Photography, and teaches piano using visuals from Rose’s Pattern Method.

  A finalist for the 2020 UNO Press Lab Prize and 46th Pushcart Nominee, Rose’s creative works appear at The Write Launch, Allegory Ridge, Streetlight Magazine, Ponder Review, Iowa Review online, The William and Mary Review, Assure Press, Toho Journal online, West Trade Review, ellipsis, Poydras Review, O:JA&L, Burningword, and Broken Pencil.
  
  You can find O.G. Rose’s website at https://www.ogrose.com

  Belonging Again: An Address can be purchased from Amazon here.

  The Map Is Indestructible can be purchased from Amazon here.

  Daniel is also a member and core contributor the Voicecraft Network @ https://www.voicecraft.network

• Tim Adalin

  Tim is the founder of Voicecraft and a philosopher with a focus on the relation between participation and transformation. You can connect with Tim individually @ https://www.timadalin.xyz

  On X @ https://x.com/tim_adalin

  And on LinkedIn @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-adalin/

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• Intro Music - 'The Big Break' by Cantrips

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